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Sources, content and Infoboxes

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Hi, Ghost Cacus. Please don't change content on a whim or personal preference; that's effectively what you've been doing with photos of statuary, as in the main pic for the Apollo article, and the Ares article; your most recent changes to the latter happen to match some basic requirements, such as a lack of distracting background, so that's fine and the end result is acceptable, considering how thin on the ground images of Ares happen to be. You should discuss any issues with the lead image of Apollo on the talk page of that article.

Infoboxes are OK as summaries of key points in their article text. They are not intended as a vehicle for unsourced, independent, debated or original research, editorial preference or editorial opinion. All content in Wikipedia must derive from reliable specialist sources; content not supported thus is not acceptable here. When you add supposed equivalents from a different religious system or culture without the support of specialist, reliable scholarly works, even in the best of faith, you are creating work for others. So please take a little more care in your approach. Cheers, Haploidavey (talk) 08:27, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

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Hello, Ghost Cacus, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.

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June 2023

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Information icon Hi Ghost Cacus! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Ares several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Ares, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. NebY (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Twelve Olympians. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.

Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Your changes to images may satisfy your desire to edit Wikipedia but they do not serve the reader. If you wish to continue editing Wikipedia, you need to stop making such edits. NebY (talk) 22:36, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes

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Hi. As you seem to be interested in editing infoboxes, I recommend you read MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE. The reason that this, for example, should not be in the infobox is because we do not mention Ares anywhere in the article as the god of "battlelust", and the above-linked guideline states that the purpose of an infobox [is] to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article. Please remember this when editing infoboxes. Also, please make a proposal on the talk page if you think articles of major deities need their main image changed. Thanks, Michael Aurel (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June 23

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Information icon Hi Ghost Cacus! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Apulu several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Apulu, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. There's plenty of sources about Etruscan Apulu and Latin Soranus both being epithets for the volcanic god Śuri, hence known as Apollo Soranus, roughly equivalent to Norse Surtr. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 00:53, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

his greek equivalent is apollo, so his roman equivalent should also be apollo. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 02:10, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

National varieties of English

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Information icon Hello. In a recent edit to the page Dionysus, you changed one or more words or styles from one national variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

For a subject exclusively related to the United Kingdom (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to another English-speaking country, such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, India, or Pakistan, use the variety of English used there. For an international topic, use the form of English that the first author of the article used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. NebY (talk) 19:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Theoi.com

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Please note that Theoi.com is not a reliable source and is not suitable for usage on Wikipedia. The information it contains should not be inserted into articles, unless also found in reliable, modern, scholarly sources. Pages such as this one, for example, are highly problematic. If you would like me to link some sources which are reliable (on the topic of Orphic theogonies or otherwise), I would be happy to. Regards, Michael Aurel (talk) 04:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Linking Orphic

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In the context of Greek mythology and religion (as opposed to modern art), "Orphic" should be linked to Orphism not Orpheus. Paul August 18:35, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 2023

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Information icon Welcome, and thank you for your attempt to lighten up Wikipedia. However, this is an encyclopedia, and articles are intended to be serious, so please don't make joke edits, as you did to Athena. Readers looking for accurate information will not find them amusing. If you'd like to experiment with editing, please use your sandbox instead, where you are given a certain degree of freedom in what you write. NebY (talk) 18:52, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Persephone, you may be blocked from editing. NebY (talk) 00:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of noticeboard discussion

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 17:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IK. Why do I need to get blocked for being angry? Ghost_Cacus (talk) 17:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't

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Please don't add something to an infobox unless it is well-sourced, mentioned in the article, and is particularly significant. Paul August 18:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I notice above that you've been told this before! Paul August 18:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Did you read the desc? Ghost_Cacus (talk) 18:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
^ (if talking about Erebus not IRis) Ghost_Cacus (talk) 18:13, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you are referring to your edit summary at Erebus then yes I did, but so what? Paul August 18:18, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It said if you have a better source cite it. It literally says so for both on Interpretatio graeca. Ghost_Cacus (talk) 18:20, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter if it's discussed or sourced in some other article, it needs to be discussed and sourced in the article you are editing. Paul August 18:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 2023 - not key, not a summary, not sourced

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Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Poseidon, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Not only was your addition to the infobox of Poseidon not sourced, it was contrary to MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, not being a summary of a fact in the article and not being a key fact about Poseidon. Paul August said "please" but as you've persisted, let's be clear: you need to stop doing this. NebY (talk) 19:26, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infoboxes again

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Ghost Cacus, you know by now that you can't add information (especially deity equivalencies) into infoboxes unless they are well sourced, mentioned in the article, and are significant enough to be considered key pieces of information about the article's subject. Please stop making these sorts of additions. – Michael Aurel (talk) 04:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I have to ask: what is it that is so appealing about infoboxes? We have hundreds of articles on Greek mythology that lack sourcing, or are otherwise poorly written. Why not instead put your efforts towards trying to improve some of these articles? – Michael Aurel (talk) 04:52, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning!

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Mnemosyne. In particular, additions to infoboxes should be well-sourced, mentioned in the article, and particularly significant. You have been warned about this several times! Paul August 11:46, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Kellogg's

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Hi. I reverted your good faith move of the page, see the talk page for the fairly recent Requested Move discussion, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:40, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 2024

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Information icon Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Kellanova. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Just leaving this message for your information on why cut-and-paste moves are generally discouraged - in this case, I don't think you'd have been able to move the page yourself because of the existing redirect, but in these cases the best thing to do is make a request at WP:RM/TR :) ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 20:04, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was already a redirect, so I did the cut and paste move Ghost_Cacus (talk) 00:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yep - in those circumstances, it's best to make a request at WP:RM/TR for a page mover to make the move on your behalf - as then, the pages can be swapped, without losing history or attribution :) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 10:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]